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Winning IntelligenceSquared's "Medicare For All" Debate (Guest: Sally Pipes)

October 3, 2019

Sally Pipes, CEO of Pacific Research Institute, talks about winning the recent Intelligence Squared debate where she and Reason Magazine's Nick Gillespie argued against a single-payer health care system.

Sally Pipes joined Reason Magazine's Nick Gillespie on September 17 in New York for the Intelligence Squared Debate that focused on whether or not implementing a single-payer health care system would benefit US consumers.

Pipes and Gillespie faced a progressive physician and entrepreneur on the other side of the debate and argued against the proposition. While those in favor of single-payer programs, including the debate panelists, argue that health care should be a right and make little more than emotional appeals that everyone should be covered, Pipes and Gillespie laid out their free-market approach to health care reform.

Specifically, Gillespie spoke at length about how the economic realities of single payer stifle and kill innovation, while Pipes dove into the data of doctor shortages in single payer markets like Canada and the U.K., and the problems with creating unlimited demand without having unlimited supply. "Medicare for All cannot repeal the law of supply and demand," Pipes tells the Intelligence Squared crowd.

Gillespie and Pipes ultimately won the audience over and won the debate with 51 percent voting against implementing single payer. Pipes joins the Health Care News podcast to discuss her experience.

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Sarah Lee is a policy advisor for health care and a host of Heartland's Health Care News podcast.
Sally C. Pipes is president and chief executive officer of the Pacific Research Institute, a San Francisco-based think tank founded in 1979.